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BonnieIN
03-13-2007, 05:00 PM
Hey all, there has recently been some riff raff about AKCA judges posting on internet forums, etc.

This does not affect the koi hobby only but also goldfish. fish

Please support them and sign either here or going to the link provided.

Thanks,
Bonnie

Below is the information:

A Petition In Support of

AKCA Judges Exercising Their 1st Amendment Internet Freedoms


TO: The ASSOCIATED KOI CLUBS OF AMERICA (AKCA)

Chairperson - Larry Levertt
Vice Chairperson - Harlan Glenn
Secretary - Carol Elliott
Chief Financial Officer - Doug Dahl
Judging Committee - Bob Finnegan

FROM: THE UNDERSIGNED MEMBERS OF THE INTERNET KOI COMMUNITY

Whereas the AKCA was founded circa 1979; and

Whereas from their inception the AKCA has always sought to represent the best interests of the hobby; and

Whereas the AKCA is a non-profit organization created to promote the hobby of keeping, breeding, appreciating and exhibiting Koi through various and sundry programs; and

Whereas there are approximately 104 AKCA affiliated clubs in North America, representing an estimated 5,000 to 6,000 members of the koi hobby, of which probably less than 600 are truly hard-core; and

Whereas these clubs put on over 30 AKCA Koi Shows each year; and

Whereas these shows constitute the heart of the AKCA outreach program by disguising education as competition, while at the same time celebrating the hobby, promoting friendships and attracting new members; and

Whereas these shows are judged by an AKCA corps of approximately 27 Certified Judges and 5 Candidate Judges; and

Whereas the AKCA Judging Committee is under the direct personal supervision of Bob Finnegan; and

Whereas these AKCA Judges give unstintingly of their time, effort, experience and expertise without compensation &/or remuneration to judge these shows; and

Whereas there is a smaller cadre of AKCA Judges who (over and above their judging duties) give unstintingly of their time, effort, experience and expertise by participating on internet koi forums; and

Whereas we, the members of said internet koi forums, do most thoroughly enjoy, appreciate and applaud these internet AKCA Judges as our teachers, mentors and friends; and

Whereas these internet AKCA Judges all use disclaimers specifying they are posting as individuals, and that their opinions do not reflect those of any organizations to which they might belong, or positions which they might hold; and

Whereas we, the members of said internet koi forums, feel diminished in our hobby when the 1st Amendment internet freedoms of our teachers, mentors and friends are threatened or abridged by the AKCA in its individual, organizational or institutional capacity; and

Whereas we, the members of said internet koi forums, feel such diminishment is not in the best interests of the AKCA, in particular, nor the hobby in general; and

Whereas the AKCA has flourished by utilizing a light (not heavy) hand with its associated clubs; and

Whereas we, the undersigned members of said internet koi forums, feel that that light handed approach would best serve as a model towards dealing with the non-judging internet activities of AKCA Judges; THEN

WE, the undersigned members of said internet koi forums, do hereby PETITION the AKCA to forthwith discontinue, disavow, eschew and forever foreswear the use, or threatened use, of organizational sanctions against Judges for exercising their 1st Amendment internet freedoms -- with the caveat that said AKCA Judges shall at all times continue to show the appropriate degree of respect towards the AKCA, its offices and its Officers.

Dated this 13th day of March, 2007

Signed:

Donald P. Chandler
Costa Mesa, CA 92627
‘KoiCop’
KoiShack
ZNA, Southern California
Koi Kichi & Water Garden Club, AKCA

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During the next two weeks anyone wishing to ‘sign’ the above Petition need only post to this thread with their:

Full Name
City, State, ZIP
AKCA Club (if any)


Didn't want full address, just City, State, ZIP -- but if that's a problem for someone, just leave it blank.
You can email me at donnbda@aol.com with info if you would rather not have it public.

Please feel free to post this Petition on any additional boards; please, just let me know if you do so I can go there to harvest signatures.

I’ll compile all the responses from the various boards -- then this Petition will be forwarded to the AKCA.

Thanks, Don


http://koishack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8839&st=0&gopid=148536&#entry148536

Jackie Ramo
03-13-2007, 07:23 PM
Bonnie, I don't want to sound rude but who wrote that??? I live the legal life day to day and this is so hard to understand I've read it 3 times and have no clue what I am signing. A simple I support the AKCA should be sufficient to thwart those exercising their freedom of speech to the determit of others on the internet.

BTW I haven't read anything negative about the AKCA judges (well except Childers !rofl ) most people are extremely supportive.

Jackie Ramo
03-13-2007, 07:25 PM
BTW koishack hates me and won't let me in I don't want to reregister.

BonnieIN
03-13-2007, 11:16 PM
Jackie, truthfully I think koicop (Don) is the one that wrote it.

While I agree that something simple might have been alot easier to understand, there might be a reason why all the mumbo jumbo is included??

I doubt very seriously that KS hates you....... I can only think of 2 people that aren't really welcome there.
I know they've had glitches in the software and I even have to log on again occasionally.
Have you tried emailing Dan or Dale?

Jackie Ramo
03-13-2007, 11:35 PM
Patti sent me an email and I will try again. No I haven't complained to them I haven't really had time to visit there except to pop in recently and not be able to so moved on.

I think Don means well but he will only get a knee jerk reaction to such a long whereas statement instead of thoughtful support. As I said I have not been on the boards much but certainly have never seen one real bad comment about AKCA or their judges. Most will consider the source of critisism and judge accordingly. Now I have to go to the Shack to see if Luke signed :lol:

BonnieIN
03-14-2007, 12:02 AM
Jackie, I sent Dan (dcny) a PM.. didn't know if you were contacted or not.
You know everyone loves ya! :smile:

Yep Luke signed, even Newt!


BTW, MOST will consider the source of critisism and judge accordingly :frisbee:

Jackie Ramo
03-14-2007, 08:25 AM
Well thanks for the info now I don't have to go----- just kidding!!! I find it funny though that Luke is a well know complainer of shows and judges not to mention grammar but he signed something that the wording of must have made him grit his teeth !rofl

Terri
03-14-2007, 09:50 AM
If I understand this correctly (like Jackie I had to read it many times!) the petition is geared towards giving the AKCA judges freedom to voice their opinions and particiate in the online koi communtiy (message boards)? Is this why Art has taken leave...? Because the AKCA has in some fashion slapped (or gagged) the judges who post online? If that is the case then I will sign the petition,... after all the judges are hobbyists too :wink: .. what I don't get is why JR and Childers haven't been effected, they are both judges as well..?

Terri
03-14-2007, 10:55 AM
Did a bit more investigating.. and I signed the petition over at KS. I hope this gets resolved, poor Art :(

BonnieIN
03-14-2007, 11:43 AM
Did a bit more investigating.. and I signed the petition over at KS. I hope this gets resolved, poor Art :(
Yes it's rediculous........
The guy (not Art) will never stop will he? !bonk

Yeah I'm not for sure why JR and Steve Childers haven't been "chosen" either! :roll:

The Other Lynda
03-14-2007, 03:22 PM
Jackie - you still can't sign into the Shack? I know it's not because you're hated or even disliked - most folks don't know you as well as I do. :frisbee: Seriously, I'll talk Dan and Dale and see if they can fix you up so you can harass people equally on both sides of the border. :smile:

Jackie Ramo
03-14-2007, 07:14 PM
Hate is just me complaining. I know most people just don't care a fig about me !rofl

Patti sent a new password but I am on the run these days. Never ever volunteer for anything if they say it will just be a few hours. Its taken over my life and I'm not even in the darn Potter's show!!! See more complaining its just what I do.

dcny
03-14-2007, 10:17 PM
sorry, guys. just seeing this. i'm glad you got in jackie.

Jackie Ramo
03-14-2007, 10:28 PM
Never mind Icomplained to th elovely Lynda a month ago... some people take no action. This means me as I didn't take any positive action on my own behalf.

dcny
03-14-2007, 11:50 PM
Lovely Lynda??? I don't know a Lovely Lynda. The Lynda I know has other nicknames. :twisted:

Jackie Ramo
03-15-2007, 10:35 AM
!rofl You know her well I see